If youre stuck on Microsoft Flight Simulator especially the big commercial airliners give Honeycomb Aeronautical a try. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). Explaining the difference is difficult to do with words. So whats a budding flight or space sim enthusiast to do? - VKB gunfighter base vs Virpils bases: VKB has a dry clutch. Jmo I managed to get hold of a Virpil constellation alpha (R) and a CM2 throttle, it was an emotional 2 month process. Hey everyone, i know this has been a few times but i cant find anything that the exact specs im looking at so im going to ask anyway. I saw Vjoy mentioned as a solution but it seems to be half of the solution because it seems to require another program to virtually map the physical device (in this case a throttle). - Virpil WARbrd vs VKB: WARbrd base has movement range of +/-22 degrees, where as the VKB bases have +/-15 degrees. I didn't say ED provided a game setting for Virpil. Ok yes the firmware and software was installed. Second, know that the current incarnation of the Virpil throttle box may simply be too much for most users. Virpil has the better engineers. No rush though, as we all know its not a quick in out game. What little product is actually available even used equipment is going for wildly inflated prices. What do you mean by splitting axes? Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. I haven't checked Virpil in a while but didn't think anything had more than the MCG Pro, with the hat over on the index finger position as well as on the thumbrest. A lot cheaper and for someone that isn't hardcore into tons of flying will be more than sufficient. Its also mostly plastic, but in a good way. I have the twist adapter for the original MCG and while the twist itself is great, the ergonomics of the MCG grip are not the best for twisting (as it was never really designed for that). By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. TL;DR: worth waiting and paying for Virpil over VKB if I'm leaning Virpil and want as many fingertip buttons as possible? Both multiple cam and spring force options. 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I do find VKB to do much nicer and cleaner internal work which matters if or when you have to open up your grip. I also have smallish hands and found that VKB is better suited to my hands and more ergonomically designed. and our Can't speak for Virpil as I've got VKB, so disclosure, obviously this is possibly biased opinion. (The Alpha-R is on backorder along with the MongoosT-50CM2 grip as well). I have an in-depth write up here. Plus half of what I would need from VKB is out of stock. You must log in or register to reply here. Virpil is a more competitive option if you want to use TM grips out of the box (but you could just buy a VKB adapter and do the same or a WinWing base). After correspondence with Virpil I have to load and create a profile for each device individually, one at a time. For using the Warthog grip, the easier to work with would be the Virpil base, as it uses the same pinout/connections. Between the WarBRD and Gunfighter options it really seems to come down to personal preference and I'll never know without putting my hands on each. I want to choose the best one for nice grip and feel, reaching buttons with s/med hands, good button placement, usability with Elite and SC, easy twisting for yaw and good centring with no drift. I intend to do mostly spaceflight sims with the stick(s). I'd pass on the NXT if your budget allows for something with cams. How convert Warthog grip for VKB standard:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS3OC6-CBv4. Looking at grips VKB and Virpil are more similar and it feels like preference is mostly related to hand size and just what each person prefers. I have an idea from my previous setup, but never really got round to completing it for Exploring and even negotiation of the galaxy map, I need to sort this finally as Im using an old DK2 VR and must stop the temptation to use my keyboard, or mouse. Vs the VKB Gunfighter MK3 with the modern combat edition grip and 200mm s curve extension for 433.13 euro ($707.21 aud) (includes shipping). Please enter a valid email and try again. VirPil make easy use Tm Warthog (or Cougar) grip in their bases, since use the same connection nut and grip electronics. Money isn't really an issue for me. WarBRD with more throw has some difficulties for center this heavy grip. > Pictures Your right, MFG's have been on the market longer than the Virpil Ace's, but I couldn't identify a lot of difference, except maybe some of the adjustments you can make on the MFG's that you can't make on the Virpil pedals. I mostly play Elite Dangerous in VR and they have been fantastic for this with so many buttons and axis. Initially I'm after a stick and will continue to use my X55 throttle, eventually I'll replace my throttle or possibly go 2 sticks. Most people get around this by using software such as Vjoy, Joystick Gremlin, or JoyToKey. Have a look through the Virpil forums. The non-marking pads on the mounting hardware, for instance, began to slide off after several weeks of continuous use. Common sense tells me that the Gladiator NXT is the sensible option. Unless you know where they are on the sticks, it'll be very confusing. It's easy! I've had 2 springs snap, which has pretty much taken my left stick out of commission (I've heard the NXTs actually ship with replacements -- mine didn't). Is anyone using Vjoy or a simiar program(s) to solve this problem? If you go with a HOTAS solution instead, making use of one of Virpils fully-customizable throttle boxes, youll need a slightly larger version of the clamp and a special adapter plate. This unique state of art device is already out of "development" phase, and is currently entering "preparation for serial production". Either way, in terms of quality and build at least it seems like a toss up. The only other thing up in the same price and perhaps build quality (I don't truly know about them either other than what I've read here, they're trying at least) is Winwing but their stick option is much more limited in overall controls. That's it. VKB complicate unnecessary the things, because being a "Apple" require a additional electronic/mechanic adapter ($60), but their Gunfigther Mk.II* base wasoptimized for deal withWarthoggrip weight. So just swap grips and flash firmware for the. Have you tried each device individually with nothing else plugged in? And just last night the plastic peg for one of the hat switches snapped. If anyone has alternate suggestions for awesome, high quality flight sticks. You basically have the exact situation as me, except that I am using detachable desktop mounts to put the stick and throttle at a better hight for my arms, which I can then move them out of the way after play, like you had to. I can say you really can go wrong either way you go. I plan on positing a review of the mcg ultimate once I receive it (should be getting it later this week hopefully) if you're curious. Hey rick, yeah you will want to use Joy Gremlin or Universal Control Remapper alongside vjoy. Everything I've ever bought from VKB has been spot on out of the box. I play 98% Elite Dangerous and 2% DCS and MSFS. But, by pulling back on that stick I had easy access to reverse thrust, which makes slowing down and changing directions in space a lot snappier. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Thank you for all the suggestions. Cookie Notice Both are great sticks, I have both of them and use extensions with them - however I have not tried using the Warthog grip as I am happy with their grips. It feels more robust than the Logitech X-52 and X-56, but lighter than the all-metal Thrustmaster Warthog. Perhaps toe break tension as well. I have a VKB stick/pedals and a Virpil throttle, and I feel that VKB hardware is higher quality overall (mostly due to the electronics/internals). Powered by Invision Community, 2012-2022 1C Game Studios | 1-777 Limited, 32 Kritis Street, Papachristoforou Building, 4th Floor, 3087 Limassol, Cyprus. Everything about it is perfect. You can also remove about an inch of height from the pedals, stripping off the rubber feet and the entire lower frame, to attach them directly to a custom flight seat. Maybe you should check out youtube and see the posts about how to do the setup. Theyre also beautifully powder coated, and come with all the bolts you need to make the attachment to the Constellation. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. A weekly roundup of the best things from Polygon, By submitting your email, you agree to our, Theres a new challenger in the world of flight sticks and throttles, Sign up for the A good USB powered hub should help with this. Been playing flight sims with a rig I purchased last year but ED was on my list of reasons why I spent money on a good input suite. Thanks, Ill take your advise. Price isn't the issue as much as quality for me. Or I can get the Virpil one and have a 2 stick approach which will let me actually assess a proper preference. Has a learning curve for sure, but I wholly recommend Virpil. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I have a good comparison of VKB and Virpil looking at the Modern Combat Grip (Their other premium grip, recently being re-released in an all-metal build) and the Constellation-Alpha, and they perform nearly identical in my opinion.. My personal experience with VKB's Kosmosima grip (the grip that comes in their MK3 space combat edition package) is very negative. Also, I did notice some defective materials in the batch of products that I received. 2012-2022 1C Game Studios | 1-777 Limited, 32 Kritis Street, Papachristoforou Building, 4th Floor, 3087 Limassol, Cyprus. Only set up a profile for each device with the other unplugged. All rights reserved Virpil pedals are much, much lower to the floor and accommodate a wider stance which, as a 66 man, I greatly appreciate. I love both sets but have settled on an MCG Gunfighter with T-rudders and the Virpil throttle. TECS (Twin Engine Control System) is a completely new throttle control device made for today's and future jet warbirds. If you fly helos, you will fall in love with this. 3 - anyone with theses setups i am conimg from a logitech x56 how to they compare in terms of build quality and feel? * Gunfighter Mk.III is to be released, "soon". Oh, and to actually answer your question: both the virpil constellation and vkb kosmosima are fantastic. So vkb is not the first/only. I don't predict it being a huge game changer, but it's kinda the first time we've had an all metal grip in a high end joystick. VKB offers an adapter that has to replace the stock connector/pinout in the grip. The configuration software is very detailed but complicated. For around $70 you can get the Virpil Desk Mount V3-S. HOTAS (hands on throttle and sticks) You all have inspired me to investigate higher quality gear for my flight sim time. When you run the Virpil Joystick tester, do all the analog axes and button inputs show up? 4 - what grip do people think is better the T-50 or the alpha? You are using an out of date browser. Generally you will find that Virpil is considered the top dog in the mid-range sim gear bracket. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I will be using the TM Warthog grip with a stickextension, so if anyone happens to run a similar setup on either the VKB or Virpil yourthoughts will be greatly appreciated. I saw Vjoy mentioned as a solution but it seems to be half of the solution because it seems to require another program to virtually map the physical device (in this case a throttle). newsletter. i use a steam controller and nothing else mostly unless i need a hotkey for certain things on the keyboard. Thank you guys for the help. > Tutorials and everything HOTAS related. In all honesty, I am leaning toward the virpil stick, but what I want to know is are their hidden pros or cons to each stick that I should know about and is the additional ~$80US for Virpil (and the wait) worth it over the VKB? I definitely have more than 38 inputs on my x55. VIRPIL hardware - key mapping setups (PDF) for you to fill out They've all been excellent, but I wouldn't choose a Delta for a primary grip in any game; it's ambidextrous which is cool I guess, but while it's good for either hand, it's not great for either hand. The VKB software also allows an enormous amount of customization like a shift key action to double up on everything or (what I find sufficient) a 'tempo' function so a quick tap vs. a longer press has 2 different operations for buttons or certain hat positions. Toe in and out being the most prominent I can see. Did you a manage to get your bindings for Elite dangerous ? I'd love to mount to desk but I don't have the space for a permanent setup and need to be able to move my controllers out of the way easily. I have zero complaints about it. Looking at grips VKB and Virpil are more similar and it feels like preference is mostly related to hand size and just what each person prefers. What it really comes down to is whether you plan to use the twist. If youre going HOTAS, Id recommend getting something from Thrustmaster instead. And, just like everyone else, Virpils stuff is on backorder as well. I do play in VR pretty often, so the numerous buttons at my fingertips on the Virpil stick apeals to me. Ace pedals also have a much better mounting solution, in my opinion, compared to the TPR pedals. Previously, those functions sat on a tiny hat switch on my throttle. First post here. I have both and for me the VKB just wins out. After nearly a decade of watching modest, incremental improvements in the space its nice to see a manufacturer innovating with their flight sticks. > DIY Out of the box, Virpils large, grippy rubber feet stay put on most surfaces. Very close to the real thing (comparing it to C-130J and A400M controls). VIRPIL hardware key mapping setups (PDF) for you to fill out, https://virpil.freshdesk.com/en/supes/47000029808-vpc-software-quick-start-guide, HOTAS Warthog Flight Stick - Thrustmaster - Technical support website, https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/controls-not-sticking.558432/#post-8792964. Same would be true with the Gunfighter. Gladiator is out of stock in Europe, Virpil say there is a back order on their stuff. JavaScript is disabled. I've been lucky enough to have purchased of a Virpil CM2 throttle and a Constellation Alpha on Warbird base and I think they are fantastic! Yes I followrd their guide. VirPil make easy use Tm Warthog (or Cougar) grip in their bases, since use the same connection nut and grip electronics. It will also likely have the same kind of impact when Elite Dangerous: Odyssey launches later this year, adding first-person, on-foot gameplay to that spacefaring game. https://1drv.ms/p/s!AuHD2NL7qn3w3gxZVfByQOacohmx?e=RhWkjj. Both can be gotten with twist. The game to get one is better than playing ED. If you have the budget for it, I'd say wait a week to see some reviews for the MCG Ultimate. So far Im extremely impressed. Be careful about copying other peoples bindings, as most of them seem to have really weird ideas or they might do only exploring so never use pips and things like that. It may take time. Its high-end equipment is currently in stock. It has about twice as many buttons as Microsoft Windows recognizes on a game controller, which means youll need to take some extra time to get it tuned before you hop into a game. 1 - does anyone have both of these setups and can tell me what they prefer? I read a few posts about which is best but most people commenting have not used both to really compare. Me personally I plan to upgrade to mcg ultimate with the gf mkIII base from vkb, when they come out for people who dont already have gf base in February. Overall, I'd recommend VKB for quality and performance. In this review, we'll take a closer look at Virpil's MongoosT-50CM2 throttle, comparing it with the popular Thrustmaster TWCS. Try contacting vkb about the broken parts, depending on how old your stick is, I've seen people post on here that they just sent them a bunch of parts to repair failed items. My advice, of course, is to give the scalpers a wide berth. ED doesn't 'see' any controllers using the bindings files, check whether you can actuallly bind any of the controls to an action and then create your own bindings file. > Reviews I know that the performance will be better but if you have done a similar upgrade let me know your thoughts. 2 - is virpil worth the extra $200+ more and a very long wait. Logitech, Thrustmaster, and many of the big name manufacturers are out of stock everywhere you look. I'm not an expert by any stretch, I only intend to use this for Elite Dangerous. Right? Whoa wait, you're saying on the ultimate you don't need to take apart the case to change from mini joystick to 4 way hat? For more information, please see our Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Outline:0:00 - First impressio. However, worse was that ED (and Il-2 and DCS) now do not recognize any of the axes on the throttle. Previously I had played spaceflight simulation games with a single stick and throttle, which is known as a hands-on-throttle-and-stick (HOTAS) setup. Will cost me less money since I can just plug in my Warthog without having to buy that $50 adapter from VKB. Youll find examples from both brands where people got shipped a dud product or had a bad experience with customer service, but on the whole theyre both producing excellent hardware and its gonna come down to personal preference for the most part. Something went wrong. But, if youre looking to spend a relatively modest amount of money on a more general purpose device something that might work with terrestrial and space flight I recommend you take a look at Virpil Controls, a small European company that is doing some really remarkable work. Sign up for a new account in our community. With those limitations in mind, I still cant help but recommend Virpil. I have a Virpil setup. I've gone back to a single, non-split profile, still nada on any of the three axes . They also have just the right amount of heft to them, and feel like a substantial upgrade to the kinds of flight sticks Ive been using for the last decade. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I was hoping for something like this for Virpil Hotas. in Elite I set one hat to move pips to weaps / sys / eng, 4th position being the 'reset', but I can also long press in the 'weap' direction to activate a macro that 'resets' and quickly bumps to my preferred overall 'fighting' weap-sys distribution, or same thing in the 'engine' direction quickly gets me to run-away distribution. It may not display this or other websites correctly. It may show you something you did wrong. Good news for fans of Microsoft Flight Simulator, Elite Dangerous, and Star Citizen. You might want to look for something with versatility since a lot of REALLY nice sticks try to fit specific requirements, like DCS OR ELITE rather than DCS AND ELITE. I can't speak for Virpil's interiors but I've been inside the grip on my VKB and the way they use independent little boards with pin receptacles to link things together on the Kosmo Premium is amazing, and would be very easy to obtain parts for repair if only one control were to fail for any reason. It works perfectly with all buttons. I do use pedals too but haven't even mapped twist on my right hand, so that's itself not a limitation if you didn't intend to use them. They release quickly, making storage a breeze. We use cookies and other tracking technologies to improve your browsing experience on our site, show personalized content and targeted ads, analyze site traffic, and understand where our audiences come from. You're not running all your USB devices through the one hub are you? Im looking at either going the virpil mongoos T-50 CM2 base with the mongoos T-50 CM2 grip or constellation alpha grip with the 200mm S curve extension for 554.81 euro (905.89 aud) (includes shipping). Just got the Virpil Constellation Alpha-R grip with the Warbrd base, as well as the 50 CM2 throttle and elite doesn't see any Virpil hardware. The right-hand stick still has complete control of pitch and yaw, while rudder pedals handle roll. The MCG Pro also has the brake axis and technically the flip-up trigger is ALSO an axis although more often used as a couple of different buttons. Also the virpil stick might cost more as i have read that somepeople buying it in Australia have had to pay GST (tax) on it. Maybe you should try moving some to other ports on your computer if you haven't tried that yet. Ive had a pretty good experience with the Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudder Pedals for the last few years, but they hang from a large central column that takes up a lot of space in my office. Currently have a CM2 grip/CM2 base with a T-50 v3 throttle and ACE-2 peddles for flight sims, as well as a Alpha-R primary with an Alpha-L/WarBRD for offhand in space. That brings the price for a full HOTAS mounting solution closer to $180. It was a bit of a process to pull apart my two kosmosima grips to fish out the good peg and slap it into my right hand stick, but I'm starting to get a little miffed with the durability of some of these small components. Another highlight for me were Virpils Ace Interceptor Rudder Pedals. Nevertheless, late last year Virpil sent along a selection of its most popular flight gear. That made the experience in Star Citizen, which features a surprising amount of walking, much more enjoyable. It features a. Its unique to you. When it comes to calibration and programming, you will similarly need to find your own way with the community of users on YouTube and on message boards as Virpil offers next to no help in getting things squared away. While the input devices alone are excellent, Virpil also has a line of surprisingly affordable custom mounting solutions. They have adopted the Thrustmaster Warthog connector and improved it while staying backwards compatible. I think that there's a good chance that the Gunfighter + mcg ultimate will take the spot as best consumer joystick on the market. The VKB base has some nice features the Virpil base doesn't have (dampers) and overall just rates a bit higher in terms of quality/performance. Edit: Didn't realize that winwing sticks were metal. Valve Corporation. All rights reserved, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS3OC6-CBv4. If you use the Virpil software there's an option somewhere to divide number of controls into groups of 32. Problem isn't your Virpil, Elite Dangerous cannot use past 32 buttons on a device. Choosing a selection results in a full page refresh. I could hit the gas on the main thruster to accelerate forward, rotate my ship in place, then roll left while also moving slightly down and sliding to the right all at the same time. To learn more or opt-out, read our Cookie Policy. 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